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Reporting Faction: Blitz Gang

Did you contact the opposing faction leader before submitting this report? (DID NOT ANSWER QUESTION)

Date of Incident: Nov 11, 2024

Time of Incident: 12:00 PM CST (estimate)

Any witnesses? No

Rule(s) Broken: Double Attacking, 4+ On An Attack, Poor Escelation

How was this/these rule(s) broken? Hello FM, graphicwarning here. This report will be fairly short due to the blatant rules this faction has broken.

Double Attacking - Blitz Gang had just attacked the faction which resides in "O'Block" around 11pm CST, and not even an hour later they attacked my faction around 12pm CST which would break the cooldown rule.

4+ On An Attack - This faction attempted to attack my faction with five guns and six members.

Poor Representation Of A Faction Leader (not a rule but a problem) - After taking part in this situation obviously knowing he double attacked and broke multiple rules within the roe, he went and direct messaged my fellow faction leader basically telling him not to report and we'll get a refund instead.

Poor Escelation - There has been nothing but positive interactions between my faction and Blitz Gang, so I just want to know why exactly Blitz Gang decides to attempt to randomly rob my faction as soon as they get back from going to attack another faction. (idk could be some freaky metagaming shit in my opinion but I won't go that far on this report)

Concluding this a report as a fellow faction leader in White City this type of roleplay presented by this faction is very disappointing, hopefully we can iron out this situation and get back to SERIOUS roleplay.

Evidence: Attack On Parkway faction around 11pm CST (Blitz Gang first attack) - https://streamable.com/d2cpoj

4+ On An Attack - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...fc54aad13eb3b97999807479b0b9513546563d5b5afa&

Poor Representation Of A Faction Leader - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...706ec5bf367f45dbfd261b8c2938279adc289015c51a&

Poor Escelation - FM can check our int logs

Robbery On My Faction - https://streamable.com/wbyvfi
 
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I will be handling this report. Leadership of Blitz Gang you have 18 hours to type your defense. Until then your factions should not be interacting.
 

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Hello, leadership of Blitz Gang here to respond to these allegations placed upon my faction.

Our plan was to go over to the other side of our faction area of roleplay and rob a few individuals we seen get out of a white vehicle, FOUR members conducted a plan to go rob said members but other players followed reason being the area where the robbery is conducted is literally right across from our factions turf so members are bound to run over there regardless of WHAT we say, we ended up getting the males at gunpoint till ONE of them did not fear, ran away and pulled out his pistol shooting at us FIRST after we told him to put his firearm up, this male failed to value his life by doing this, and by him doing this made the robbery we had plan to conduct turn into an attack due to us having to kill the male because he didn't fear and pull out his gun.

Double Attacking - Blitz Gang had just attacked the faction which resides in "Oblock" around 11pm CST, and not even an hour later they attacked my faction around 12pm CST which would break the cooldown rule.

An attack would've never been "conducted" if your member feared his life to the "5" weapons you say were aimed at him, the whole reason an attack was "conducted" is because of your members' poor roleplay, and failure to fear his life.


Poor Escelation - There has been nothing but positive interactions between my faction and Blitz Gang, so I just want to know why exactly Blitz Gang decides to attempt to randomly rob my faction as soon as they get back from going to attack another faction. (idk could be some freaky metagaming shit in my opinion but I won't go that far on this report)

The said members that planned to conduct a robbery on the individuals coming out of the white vehicle didn't know who said faction was at the time, regardless of the "positive" interactions you say that doesn't mean anything, anybody can play it cool to get the ups on said faction, which is what happened in this case. This is NOT poor escalation and WOULDN'T'VE been an attack if your MEMBERS feared, there is no rules on how much players you can conduct a ROBBERY with and due to Clap Nem not having turf that robbery wouldn't have been an attack if said Clap Nem members feared.

Conclusion: Clap Nem does not have official turf so a robbery in that area of the map wouldn’t be considered an attack, but in this case a Clap Nem member did not fear, turning what was supposed to be just a robbery into an attack, and you mention “poor escalation” but are we not on a Chicago based roleplay server? Robberies happen all the time in Chicago no matter who you are, oh well your members got robbed that doesn’t mean it was “poorly escalated”. There are no rules that state how many members you can have on a robbery, yes a little over the top amount was brought on this robbery but when it's right across from your faction's area of roleplay its bound to happen either way the robbery would’ve stayed a robbery if the Clap Nem member feared and one of the members that was over there at the time of the robbery didn’t have a weapon We didn't double attack, robbing isn't an attack if you do not have turf. Which no faction has turf currently because no one is Tier 1, Lead FM also said that. Once again, it's not an attack, it was four more members there. Also, can we speak on how your faction member ran out the house and didn't fear his life? He ran and upped his gun when there is about two-three guns being pointed at him. There was no poor escalation, y'all faction came to our turf talking crazy. Saying "we we're sweet" and all, that's when Sixx which is (GUCC) start fighting them. Not only that after that, Sixx was on the phone with y'all going back and forth. Since they called us sweet, we seen them and took them down.

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Per Faction Management the ROE states:

A robbery is considered a faction attack when it occurs on a faction's official turf. (To avoid those who attempt to Play-2-Win and avoid roleplay you do not have to pin-point when robbing an individual within a faction's turf) If the faction member isn't on the set turf, and you are aware that he's apart of the set faction IC, it will STILL be considered a faction attack. (Remember to abide by the double attacking rule) You must have valid reasoning to rob someone as your faction may only rob every 12 hours regardless of the turf, failure to do so will result in punishment.”

This is the only rule in the ROE about robbery’s, no where here it states that there can only be 4 members involved in a robbery. So per Faction Managements ROE the 6 player robbery is allowed and not against the ROE. Also, all Factions that have weapons at the moment are still “Test Factions” and not Tiered. So wouldn’t that mean there is no “Official Turfs” in the server at the moment? There is nowhere in the Faction Discord that shows any Factions “Offical Turf”, so how would we know where there turf is especially if they are right next to us? There’s no “Offical Turfs” so this wouldn’t be counted as an attack per the ROE.

@alwayshuncho Before giving the verdict make sure you read over this and ask these questions to yourself.
 

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Hello, leadership of Blitz Gang here to respond to these allegations placed upon my faction.

Our plan was to go over to the other side of our faction area of roleplay and rob a few individuals we seen get out of a white vehicle, FOUR members conducted a plan to go rob said members but other players followed reason being the area where the robbery is conducted is literally right across from our factions turf so members are bound to run over there regardless of WHAT we say, we ended up getting the males at gunpoint till ONE of them did not fear, ran away and pulled out his pistol shooting at us FIRST after we told him to put his firearm up, this male failed to value his life by doing this, and by him doing this made the robbery we had plan to conduct turn into an attack due to us having to kill the male because he didn't fear and pull out his gun.


Conclusion: ClapNem does not have official turf so a robbery in that area of the map wouldn’t be considered an attack, but in this case a ClapNem member did not fear, turning what was supposed to be just a robbery into an attack, and you mention “poor escalation” but are we not on a chicago based roleplay server? Robberies happen all the time in Chicago no matter who you are, oh well your members got robbed that doesn’t mean it was “poorly escalated”. There are no rules that state how many members you can have on a robbery, yes a little over the top amount was brought on this robbery but when it's right across from your faction's area of roleplay its bound to happen either way the robbery would’ve stayed a robbery if the ClapNem member feared and one of the members that was over there at the time of the robbery didn’t have a weapon.

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Sup Drafted 2 The Streets, as I summarize your defense what you've only expressed that this wasn't a faction attack due to it being on an official faction turf, it shows in the roe that this in fact is still considered a faction attack... Leadership.
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My faction in fact was not a set turf, you're completely right, but this is where you've come up shy... You robbed my faction knowing exactly what faction you were attempting to rob which makes this a faction attack. You could've shut this whole report down if y'all stood on omerta. Loose lips sink ships.
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Now for the member who decided to run off and shoot back that is a player related issue, due to the fact he was the only person out of the group who ran thinking he was lebron, the other members complied and roleplayed the scene out. (Server Rules: Value To Fear Life)

Another thing I want to point out, during the robbery you can see in the clip the robbery itself was very subpar due to the lack of /me's and /do's. It's almost 2025 and this is serious roleplay. Robbery
 

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As Lead Faction Management I would like to clear up that this nobody turf due to the simple fact no one has earned it and turf applications hasn’t came up.

Reminder please keep the responses professional and neat.
 

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My faction in fact was not a set turf, you're completely right, but this is where you've come up shy... You robbed my faction knowing exactly what faction you were attempting to rob which makes this a faction attack. You could've shut this whole report down if y'all stood on omerta. Loose lips sink ships.
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Ok so you are admitting that you don’t have an “Official Turf” in the server. Also, in this clip where did you or any of your Faction members say your from “Clapnem” or “650”. So that means your lying on a Faction Report to get your assets back, doing anything to get your guns back. My Faction belived you were normal players living in the buildings and looking for a come-up, as you can hear in there clip one of my members states “This nigga got no money, he broke as shit” not even looking for guns just trying to come-up some cash to build his storyline.

So we already debunked the “4+ members on a robbery” rule and your already admitting to not having an “Official Turf” and you never claimed your Faction, there is no ROE breaks in this scene at all.
 

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Per Faction Management the ROE states:

A robbery is considered a faction attack when it occurs on a faction's official turf. (To avoid those who attempt to Play-2-Win and avoid roleplay you do not have to pin-point when robbing an individual within a faction's turf) If the faction member isn't on the set turf, and you are aware that he's apart of the set faction IC, it will STILL be considered a faction attack. (Remember to abide by the double attacking rule) You must have valid reasoning to rob someone as your faction may only rob every 12 hours regardless of the turf, failure to do so will result in punishment.”

This is the only rule in the ROE about robbery’s, no where here it states that there can only be 4 members involved in a robbery. So per Faction Managements ROE the 6 player robbery is allowed and not against the ROE. Also, all Factions that have weapons at the moment are still “Test Factions” and not Tiered. So wouldn’t that mean there is no “Official Turfs” in the server at the moment? There is nowhere in the Faction Discord that shows any Factions “Offical Turf”, so how would we know where there turf is especially if they are right next to us? There’s no “Offical Turfs” so this wouldn’t be counted as an attack per the ROE.

@alwayshuncho Before giving the verdict make sure you read over this and ask these questions to yourself.

Let me get you right together 32. You say your faction didn't know where our turf is but for our whole probation we've had multiple interactions with your faction by selling drugs or simply just hanging out even fought dmg with y'all before. Your faction stays on that side and our faction stays on our side for a reason and you know that, if it wasn't y'all would've roleplayed throughout the whole turf rather than just on that side, but y'all didn't because y'all knew another faction resided on the other half of that turf.
 

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Let me get you right together 32. You say your faction didn't know where our turf is but for our whole probation we've had multiple interactions with your faction by selling drugs or simply just hanging out even fought dmg with y'all before. Your faction stays on that side and our faction stays on our side for a reason and you know that, if it wasn't y'all would've roleplayed throughout the whole turf rather than just on that side, but y'all didn't because y'all knew another faction resided on the other half of that turf.
I never said we didn’t know your Faction stays there. I said there is no “Offical Turfs” in the server as every Faction with weapons is considered a “Test Faction”. Turf Applications are not yet up and there is no channel in the Faction Discord showing where “Official Turfs” are. So nice try. All of your “ROE Rule Breaks” have been debunked, I say we wrap this up and let @alwayshuncho give his verdict.
 

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I never said we didn’t know your Faction stays there. I said there is no “Offical Turfs” in the server as every Faction with weapons is considered a “Test Faction”. Turf Applications are not yet up and there is no channel in the Faction Discord showing where “Official Turfs” are. So nice try. All of your “ROE Rule Breaks” have been debunked, I say we wrap this up and let @alwayshuncho give his verdict.
Thank you 32.
 

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@alwayshuncho Before giving your verdicts look at the facts in this scene.

- There’s no “Official Turfs” which wouldn’t make this a Double Attack.
- The “ClapNem” members never stated where they are from or even if they gangbang in this scene.
- No where in the ROE states that only 4 members are allowed in a Robbery.
- We’ve been plotting on “backdooring” this Faction for the last few days so Poor Esclation is out the window.
- A ClapNem members didn’t fear their life to avoid getting their assets taken.
- ClapNem Leadership lied on this report multiple times as well in Leadership Chat saying they claimed to be from “650” or “ClapNem” (never happend).

You can go ahead and lock this we will not be responding again unless asked to by the handling FM.
 

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@alwayshuncho Before giving your verdicts look at the facts in this scene.

- There’s no “Official Turfs” which wouldn’t make this a Double Attack.
- The “ClapNem” members never stated where they are from or even if they gangbang in this scene.
- No where in the ROE states that only 4 members are allowed in a Robbery.
- We’ve been plotting on “backdooring” this Faction for the last few days so Poor Esclation is out the window.
- A ClapNem members didn’t fear their life to avoid getting their assets taken.
- ClapNem Leadership lied on this report multiple times as well in Leadership Chat saying they claimed to be from “650” or “ClapNem” (never happend).

You can go ahead and lock this we will not be responding again unless asked to by the handling FM.

Let me wrap this up because you're reaching bad, we know there's no official turfs, we know clapnem members never said where they were from, never in the report I stated anything about anybody claiming a faction or lie. We also know in the roe there is no limit on how many people can apart of a robbery. If Blitz Gang did nothing wrong, why would the leader of the faction dm my fellow leader this?
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This is my last response unless requested to by faction management. Thank you for your time and effort 32 and Drafted To The Streets.
 

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Let me wrap this up because you're reaching bad, we know there's no official turfs, we know clapnem members never said where they were from, never in the report I stated anything about anybody claiming a faction or lie. We also know in the roe there is no limit on how many people can apart of a robbery. If Blitz Gang did nothing wrong, why would the leader of the faction dm my fellow leader this?
So you just admitted that all of your claims of my Factions rule breaks were debunked, so why is this report still up? Your literally contradicting yourself. You did lie on this report, as well as in Leadership chat and said we knew what Faction we were robbing which we didn’t and you just admitted that you never claimed anything.
Leadership of “Wild 100s” (Texy) dmed you this to avoid exactly what we are doing right now, and actually showed you guys Common Courtesy. You think me or @Drafted 2 The Streets wants to be responding to this report right now? No we don’t at all, it’s a complete waste of time. But here we are.
 

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Locked until the handling FM responds with a verdict.
 

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Hello, I would like to thank you all for handling this report neatly and respectfully. But with that being said both sides have provided claims that contradict another. With both faction’s roleplaying in practically the same turf and no official turfs have been dished out, this makes this situation sort of wonky.

Claim 1: @GUCC claims that they planned on backdooring members of clapnem but @32. claims that they were looking for a come up so those two points contradict themselves. Planning on backdooring members of a faction is considered an attack because you would be aware that they were apart of that set which would make this situation a violation of the 12 hour seperate faction attack cooldown, and would also be a violation of the 4 member limit on a faction attack. But it seems as if the wild 100’s do not know specifically whom they robbed, and it occurred in an unofficial turf. So the claim of it not being an official turf, but the 100s not pinpointing as if it was a turf also contradict each other.

Claim 2: @graphicwarning , Your most recent claim of debunking your own report has also contradicted yourself. Along with your partnering leader saying in leaders chat that your members claimed but in reality they didn't, is also an issue.

Before I give my final verdict, I ask that the Wild 100s provide a 2 minute clip of the robbery. I will directly submit my verdict post-review.
 

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Claim 1: @GUCC claims that they planned on backdooring members of clapnem but @32. claims that they were looking for a come up so those two points contradict themselves. Planning on backdooring members of a faction is considered an attack because you would be aware that they were apart of that set which would make this situation a violation of the 12 hour seperate faction attack cooldown, and would also be a violation of the 4 member limit on a faction attack.
Yes, we’ve been planning on backdooring them but this wasn’t the scene we planned on doing it in. We didn’t know it was ClapNem until after the scene happend and their Leaders came in the Faction Cord complaining. Our plan on backdooring them was invovled with me and other members that had been locked in and cool with their members.
So the claim of it not being an official turf, but the 100s not pinpointing as if it was a turf also contradict each other.
What do we need to pinpoint? This is a robbery in our hood we roleplay in everyday. We thought these were normal civilians roleplaying living in our hood, like I said before all we were looking for was a come-up on money, drugs and anything of value.
 

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After a deep review on all accounts, and contradicting evidence and claims, Blitz Gang/Wild 100s will be receiving two strikes for Violating the 12-hour cooldown, and 5 members on an attack. You are able to appeal one of these strikes in 7 days.
This Report is now L&A'd.
 
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